The Gibson Households in the 1861 Census of Canada East (Québec)

After I presented the problem of the birthdates of Ada May Gibson and her brother Arnold Gibson, Cindy Henry posted a comment that helps to clear up the issue .  According to Ada May’s Baptismal Record, Ada May was born on 04 Aug 1859 in Canada, and according to Arnold’s Death Certificate, Arnold was born on 17 Aug 1859 in Vermont .  Something is wrong here.

Cindy wrote:

I found Arnold and Hattie Gibson in the 1910 and 1920 Vermont census on Ancestry.com. His age of 48/58 respectively provides an estimated birthdate of 1862.

I, myself, found Ada May in the 1861 Census of Canada East (Québec) .  She is enumerated on line 10:

1861 Census Record for the John Gibson and Clark Gibson Households

The Gibson Households in the 1861 Census of Canada East (Québec)

SOURCE:  Clark Gibson and John Gibson Households, 1861 Canada East Census (Québec), Parish of St. Georges de Clarenceville, Missisquoi County, page 253, lines 5-10 and 24-30. National Archives of Canada Film C-1297 Nominal. Microfilm FHL US/CAN Census Area 517397, Family History Library [FHL], Salt Lake City, Utah.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Census of Canada East (Québec) for the Gibson Households – 1861 .  The census record shows:

  • Clark Gibson is enumerated with his wife and family on lines 5-10 of page 253 in the census of the Parish of St. Georges de Clarenceville, Missisquoi County, Canada East;
  • Clark is a 37-year old blacksmith born in Lower Canada;
  • Clark’s wife is Maryette Gibson, 27 years old, born in the U.S.A.;
  • Clark’s children are Willard, 9 years old, born in the U.S.A.; Hannah, 7 years old, born in Lower Canada; Emily, 5 years old, born in the U.S.A.; and Addia [Ada May], 2 years old, born in Lower Canada;
  • John Gibson [Clark’s father] is enumerated with his wife and family on lines 24-30 of the same page in the same census as Clark;
  • John is a 60-year-old farmer born in the U.S.A.;
  • John’s wife is Sarah Gibson, 47 years old, born in the U.S.A.;
  • John’s children are James, a 31-year-old laborer born in Lower Canada; William, a 24-year-old laborer born in Lower Canada; Martha, a 27-year-old spinster born in Lower Canada; Sarah, a 19-year-old spinster born in Lower Canada; and George, 12 years old, born in Lower Canada;
  • Clark and his family are all listed as having no religion; John and his family are listed as being Wesleyan Methodists.

This record shows that Ada May was 2 years old in 1861, so she was born in about 1859 .  This estimate agrees with the date on her Baptismal Record.

The census records that Cindy found indicate that Arnold was born in about 1862 .  Arnold does not appear in the 1861 census with the rest of the family, so it is likely that 1862 is a better estimate of his birth year than the 1859 date shown on his Death Certificate.

An examination of other census records between the 1861 Canadian Census and the 1910 US Census may help confirm these assumptions.

Since Clark Gibson’s family is listed as having no religious affiliation, it would be unlikely that his children would be baptized as infants .  This may explain why Ada May was baptized at age 22 and why I haven’t been able to find Baptismal Records for any of Clark’s other children.

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The Baptism of Charles Edward Saxton

Charles Edward Saxton, son of George Saxton and Ada May Gibson, was baptized in the Methodist Church on the same day as his mother Ada May Saxton and his brother Thomas Clark Saxton.

Baptismal Record for Charles Edward Saxton

The Baptismal Record for Charles Edward Saxton

SOURCE: The Methodist Church Serving Frelighsburg, Quebec, Canada. Baptismal Records. 1881. Charles Edward Saxton. FHL US/CAN Film 2027346 Item 3, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record for Charles Edward Saxton – 1881 .  The record states:

Baptism:- C. E. Saxton

Charles Edward, son of George Saxton of the Parish of St. Armand West in the county of Missisquoi and province of Quebec and of Ada May Gibson his wife, was born on the fifth day of March Eighteen hundred and eighty-one and was baptized on the twenty-first day of March Eighteen hundred and eighty-one in the presence of the subscribing witnesses
by me
[Signed] J.E Richardson
M.M.

Witnesses:- [Signed] Adie May Saxton [Signed] Thomas Hightman

Since Thomas Clark Saxton was baptized only 16 days after birth, the date of birth provided in this record is probably fairly accurate.

In the 1851 and 1861 Canadian Census Records, Ada May’s grandparents were listed as Methodist .  In the 1861 Canadian Census Records, Ada May, her parents, her brother Willard, and her sisters Hannah and Emily are listed as having no religion.

The family of George and Ada May Saxton later joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints .  What was the religion of George Saxton before he emigrated from England?  When did the family join the LDS Church?

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The Baptism of Thomas Clark Saxton

Thomas Clark Saxton, son of George Saxton and Ada May Gibson, was baptized in the Methodist Church on the same day as his mother.

Baptismal Record for Thomas Clark Saxton

The Birth and Baptismal Record for Thomas Clark Saxton

SOURCE: The Methodist Church Serving Frelighsburg, Quebec, Canada. Baptismal Records. 1881. Thomas Clark Saxton. FHL US/CAN Film 2027346 Item 3, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record for Thomas Clark Saxton – 1881 .  the record states:

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Baptism:- T. C. Saxton

Thomas Clark, son of George Saxton of St. Armand West in the county of Missisquoi and province of Quebec and of Ada May Gibson his wife, born on the seventh day of October Eighteen hundred and seventy eight and was baptized on the twenty-first day of March Eighteen hundred and eighty-one in the presence of the subscribing witnesses by me
[Signed] J.E Richardson
Meth. Minister

Witnesses:- [Signed] Adie May Saxton [Signed] Thomas Hightman

Thomas Clark was baptized on the same day as Ada May, his mother, was baptized .  His mother served as a witness, and the second witness, Thomas Hightman, also witnessed Ada May’s baptism.

Since Thomas Clark Saxton was baptized only 2-1/2 years after birth, the date of birth provided in this record is probably fairly accurate.

One lingering question I have is:  Did the child’s father attend the baptism?  The mother signed the baptismal records as a witness but the father did not.

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The Baptism of Ada May (Gibson) Saxton

According to some sources I’ve found, Ada May Gibson and her brother Arnold Gibson (children of Clark Gibson and Maryette Olds) were born 13 days apart in different countries .  Ada May was born on 04 Aug 1859 in Québec and Arnold was born on 17 Aug 1859 in Vermont, USA .  The evidence for Ada May’s birthdate is derived from her Baptismal Record.

The Baptismal Record for Ada May (Gibson) Saxton

The Baptismal Record for Ada May (Gibson) Saxton

SOURCE:  The Methodist Church Serving Frelighsburg, Quebec, Canada. Baptismal Records. 1881. Ada May Saxton. FHL US/CAN Film 2027346 Item 3, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah. 

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Baptismal Record for Ada May (Gibson) Saxton .  The record states that:

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Baptism:- Mrs. A. M. Saxton

Adie May Gibson, wife of George Saxton of St Armand West in the county of Missisquoi and province of Quebec, was born on the fourth day of August Eighteen hundred and fifty-nine and was baptized on the twenty-first day of March Eighteen hundred and eighty-one in the presence of the subscribing witnesses by me
[Signed] J.E Richardson M.M.

Witnesses:- [Signed] Adie May Saxton [Signed] Thomas Hightman

The notation M.M. after the minister’s name stands for “Methodist Minister”.

Curiously, Ada May (or Adie May as she is called in this record) was a witness at her own baptism!

Ada May was baptized as an adult .  Although her birthdate is listed as 04 Aug 1859, the accuracy of the date is suspect, since the information was recorded some 22 years after the fact.

Ada May’s brother Arnold was born on 17 Aug 1859, but this information is derived from Arnold’s Death Certificate – 68 years after the fact.

Either one or both of these dates is wrong .  But which one?  And how do I find a better source for their birthdates?

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The Marriage of Arnold Gibson and Hattie Fadden

I previously published the death record and burial permit for Arnold Gibson and the burial permit for Hattie Fadden Gibson .  Arnold and Hattie were married in Sheldon, Vermont in 1885.

Marriage Record for Arnold Gibson

The Marriage Record for Arnold Gibson

SOURCE: The State of Vermont. Department of Health. Marriage Record. 1916. Arnold Gibson and Hattie Fadden. FHL US/CAN Film 2022665, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Marriage Record for Arnold Gibson – 1885 .  The record states:

  • Arnold Gibson and Hattie Fadden were married on 1 Jul 1885 in Sheldon, Vermont;
  • Arnold was born in Alburgh;
  • Arnold was 23 years old at the time of marriage and this marriage was his first marriage;
  • Arnold’s parents were Clark Gibson and Mariette [no surname given]; the birthplaces of Clark and Mariette are not provided;
  • W. N. Roberts, a minister, officiated at the marriage;
  • The document includes the number P599 and is documented by E. M. Brown, Town Clerk in Sheldon.

In Vermont, the marriage records for this period are recorded on separate cards .  This card is for the groom.

The birthplace for Arnold Gibson, as stated on this record, is Alburgh in Grand Isle County, Vermont .  This conflicts with the information on Arnold’s Death Certificate, which stated he was born in Island Pond, Essex County, Vermont.

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My Second Cousin Liliana is in Town!

My second cousin Liliana is in town!  She and her husband Valery are in San Francisco for a wedding and I surprised them by meeting them at San Francisco International Airport and bringing them to their hotel.  We spent a couple of hours together before I left them to rest up before the wedding tomorrow.

Liliana and I share great grandparents Wincenty Chmielewski and Anastasia Wojnowska.  Our grandmothers Helena and Ona were sisters, and, while many of the cousins I’ve mentioned on this blog are half-cousins, Liliana and I are full second cousins.

To give some background, our great grandfather Wincenty was married twice.  His first marriage to Scholastyka Woytczuka resulted in the birth of my half great uncle Joseph Meleski and my half great aunt Stefania Meleski.  My grandmother and Ona, however, were full sisters and were very close growing up in Lithuania.

I learned tonight from my cousin Liliana that Ona never spoke Lithuania until she was married, and that both of our grandmothers, although they lived in Lithuania, were Polish – not Lithuanian.

Liliana and I made tentative plans to travel to Lithuania in October to visit her relatives and see the villages where our Chmielewski ancestors lived.  Since Liliana was born and raised in Lithuania, this is a chance I can’t afford to let pass by!

So, in honor of Liliana’s visit, here’s a photo of my grandparents and their children:

The Niedzialkowski Family
The Niedzialkowski Family
SOURCE: The Niedzialkowski Family (Worcester, Worcester Co., Massachusetts, USA); photographed by unknown photographer in about 1926.

From the left: Fred, Jane, Helena (Chmielewski / Meleski), Henry, Kostanty, Nat, and Ray.

This is one of my favorite photographs .  Just look at those knickers!

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The Birth of Anna May Gibson

Clark Gibson and his first wife Margaret Coyle had three children .  I’ve been able to find the Birth Record for only one of these children, namely Anna May Gibson.

Birth Record for Anna May Gibson

Birth Record for Anna May Gibson

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth Record for Anna May Gibson – 1916 .  The record shows that:

  • Anna May Gibson was born live on 04 Sep 1916 in the City of St. Albans, Vermont;
  • She was white and the first child of her mother;
  • The mother, Margaret Coyle, was 22 years old, was born in Ireland, and was living in Fairfield;
  • The father, Clark Gibson, was a 22 year old farmer who was born in Fairfield, Vermont;
  • The name of the informant was H. H. Johnson and the City Clerk was BM Hopkins.

After the birth of her third child, Margaret Coyle Gibson returned to Ireland with the children, including Anna May .  Clark remained in the United States .  As far as anyone knows, Clark never heard from Margaret or her children again.

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Peggy Yvonne Middleton a.k.a. Yvonne DeCarlo a.k.a. Lily Munster

Yvonne DeCarlo died on 08 Jan 2007 .  She was born Margaret Yvonne Middleton on 01 Sep 1922 in Vancouver, British Columbia, although the exact date of her date of birth is the subject of some speculation . Â Through her life, Margaret usually went by the name of Peggy .  Peggy’s father left in 1925, and when she was 15 years old, her mother brought her to Hollywood.

For a stage name, Peggy took her own middle name and her mother’s middle name to become Yvonne DeCarlo .  A beautiful young woman, Peggy began a successful career in motion pictures; one of her most important roles was as the wife of Moses in the film The Ten Commandments.

The role for which she is best known, however, was as Lily Munster on the television show The Munsters.

Peggy was born too late to be listed on the currently available Canadian Census Records, and she arrived in the United States too late to be listed on the currently available United States Census Records .  However, genealogical information about Peggy Yvonne Middleton is readily available on the internet, such as this clipping about her marriage to Robert Morgan.

Yvonne DeCarlo Marriage

Yvonne DeCarlo’s Marriage to Robert Morgan

SOURCE: “Yvonne DeCarlo Weds”. Dallas Morning News. November 22, 1955. Page 16 .  http://www.GenealogyBank.com.

The greatest source of records about Peggy on Ancestry.com is the Immigration Records, since she traveled frequently .  Being a Canadian Citizen, she had to register as an alien each time she entered the United States .  Peggy frequently traveled with Constance MacKenzie.

Peggy Middleton 1951 Southampton

Passenger Manifest from Mallorca to New York 1951

Based on this manifest, Peggy was born in 1924 and Constance was born in 1901 .  This manifest shows that the two women sailed in First Class on the S.S. Independence from Mallorca .  Constance traveled with 5 pieces of luggage .  Peggy traveled with 8 pieces of luggage .  I don’t even own 8 pieces of luggage.

Peggy Middleton 1952 Southampton

Passenger Manifest from Southampton to New York 1952

Based on this manifest, Peggy and Constance have both become younger .  Although this manifest was prepared a year after the previous manifest, both Peggy and Constance have become a year younger .  Based on this information, Peggy was born in 1926, and Constance was born in 1903 .  This time, the two women traveled First Class on the S.S. United States from Southampton .  Constance traveled with 4 pieces of luggage and Peggy with 8.

By examining the immigration records at Ancestry.com, one can follow Peggy around the world in the 1940s and 1950s .  While most of our ancestors left behind only one passenger manifest, Peggy left dozens.

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The Burial of Harriett (Fadden) Gibson

Harriett (Fadden) Gibson died less than two years after the death of her husband, Arnold R. Gibson .  An unusual aspect of her death is that she died, not in Vermont where she lived all her life .  She died in Albany, New York, and her body was removed to Worcester, Vermont to be buried next to her husband.

Burial Permit for Harriett Gibson

The Burial Permit for Harriett Gibson

SOURCE: New York State Department of Health. Official Burial (or Removal) Permit. 1930. Harriett Gibson. FHL US/CAN Film 2022665, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Burial Permit for Harriett Gibson 1930 .  The permit states:

  • Harriett Gibson died on 2 Jan 1930 in Albany, Albany County, New York;
  • Harriett was a white woman, who was 63 years old at the time of her death;
  • On 03 Jan 1930, Florence M. Griffith, Deputy Local Registrar, granted a burial permit to [illegible] A. Simmons of Albany, New York to inter the body;
  • Harriett was buried on 04 Jan 1930 in Worcester, Vermont;
  • Two numbers appear on the permit: 38 1/2 in the upper right and 101 in the upper left.

Tomorrow:  Why was Harriett Gibson in Albany, New York when she died?

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The Burial of Arnold Gibson

Arnold Gibson, Clark Gibson’s father, died on 14 Mar 1928 and was buried on 16 Mar 1928.

Burial Permit for Arnold Gibson

Permit for Burial, Entombment or Removal for Arnold R. Gibson

SOURCE: The State of Vermont. Department of Health. Permit for Burial, Entombment or Removal. 1928. Arnold R.Gibson. FHL US/CAN Film 2022665, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Permit for Burial, Entombment or Removal for Arnold R. Gibson – 1928 .  The permit states that:

  • The permit was issued to Barber & Lanier, the undertakers for Arnold Gibson, in Montpelier, Montpelier County, Vermont;
  • Arnold R. Gibson died on 14 Mar 1928 age 68 years, 6 months, 27 days;
  • The cause of death was unknown, natural causes, sudden death, circumstances reported to States Attorney who authorized certificate without autopsy;
  • The proposed date of burial was 16 Mar 1928 and the proposed place of burial was Worcester, Vermont;
  • The manner of burial was usual;
  • The permit was signed by Jessie M. Putnam, Town Clerk, on 16 Mar 1928.

This permit was microfilmed along with the vital records for Vermont and appeared on the microfilm immediately following Arnold Gibson’s Death Certificate.

The manner of burial was described as “usual”, which makes me wonder what an “unusual” manner of burial would entail.

Neither the Death Certificate nor the Burial Permit for Arnold Gibson is more specific about the place of burial than Worcester, Vermont.

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