All-Day Seminar with Dick Eastman

On Saturday, May 12, I’ll be at the all-day seminar with Dick Eastman sponsored by the San Diego Genealogical Society and the computer Genealogy Society of San Diego.

Dick will present four seminars:

  1. Grandpa in Your Pocket – a demonstration of various gadgets that will make your genealogy research easier and do things not thought possible before.
  2. The Internet – the Good, the Bad and the Ugly – learn the many great and new things the Internet has to offer as well as the pitfalls and scams. A must for every researcher.
  3. Google for Genealogists – learn how to maximize your results in using the world’s most popular search engine; find out how to do things you never dreamed possible.
  4. Putting the Genes in Genealogy – learn your family history to help your family fight or neutralize inherited diseases; something every genealogist needs to know.

Take a look at the flyer for more information.

The program is now sold out, so I’m glad I got my reservation in early!

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The Death and Burial of Joseph Franí§ois Adelard Patenaude – 1880

Three of the children of Charles Gédéon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache died young. One of those children was Joseph Franí§ois Adelard Patenaude, who died in 1880 at ten months of age. His death and burial record is number S.9 on the back of folio 8 of the parish of St. Edmond, Coaticook, Stanstead Co., Québec.

The Death and Burial Record of Joseph Francois Adelard Patenaude - 1880

The Death and Burial Record of Joseph Franí§ois Adelard Patenaude -1880

SOURCE: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montréal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Death and Burial Record of Joseph Franí§ois Adelard Patenaude, Mission of St. Edmond, Coaticook, Stanstead Co., Québec, Canada, 1880. Back of Folio 8, S.9.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Death and Burial Record of Joseph Franí§ois Adelard Patenaude -1880. Translated from the French, the record states:

S.9 [Burial #9]
Joseph
Francois
Adelard
Patenaude

On the ninth of April one thousand eight hundred eighty, we, the undersigned priest vicar have buried in the cemetery of this parish, the body of Joseph Franí§ois Adelard, ten months of age, an infant born of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude, laborer, and Osithe Gamache of this parish. Those present were: the father of the infant, Charles Roy and Léon Giroux, who all signed with us.

[signed] Charles Patenaude
[signed] Charles Roy
[signed] Léon Giroux
[signed] D.A. Prévost, Priest

This record provides the date and place of burial, but does not mention the date or place of death. In my database, I can list the date of death as “abt. 09 Apr 1880”, but how do I indicate the place of death?

Ancestry.com subscribers can find this record in the Quebec Vital Records Collection in the records for Coaticook (St-Edmond) 1880, image 9 of 29.

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The Marriage of Charles Gédéon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache – 1862

I’ve published the birth and baptismal records for all the children of Charles Gédéon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache. Working backward in time, the parents were married in 1862. Their marriage is recorded as record M.13 in the records of the Parish of St. Bernard, Lacolle, St. Jean County, Canada East, in 1862.

The Marriage Record of Gedeon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache - 1862

The Marriage Record of Charles Gédéon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache -1862

SOURCE: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Marriage Record of Gédéon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache, Parish of St. Bernard, Lacolle, St. Jean Co., Canada East, 1862. Front of Folio 17, M.13.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Marriage Record of Charles Gédéon Patenaude and Osithe Gamache -1862. Translated from the French, the record states:

M.13. [Marriage #13]
Gédéon Patenaude
and
Osithe Gamache

 On the twenty-fourth of June, one thousand eight hundred sixty two, after the publication of three banns of marriage, made at the homilies of our parish masses, and at the homilies of the parish masses of St. Valentin and St. Cyprien, [two or three words?] by the certificates from Misters G. Lesage, priest of St. Valentin and F. Morrison, priest of St. Cyprien, on the date of the twenty-third of the current month, over three consecutive holy days, between Gédéon Patenaude of St. Valentin, of legal age, son of Franí§ois Patenaude, farmer, and Marguerite Cognac of the first part, and Osithe Gamache of this parish, of legal age, daughter of Franí§ois Gamache, farmer, and the deceased Osithe Martin of St. Cyprien of the second part; not finding any impediment to said marriage and [one word?] relatives, we, the undersigned priest of this parish, have received their mutual consent of marriage and have given them the nuptial benediction in the presence of Franí§ois Gamache, father of the bride, and of Franí§ois Patenaude, father of the groom, and of several others who declared they were not able to sign, the bride and groom signed with us.

Gédéon Patenaude
Ozite Gamache
F. Rochette, priest

This record was the first marriage record I’ve ever translated from French, and it took a while for me to get through it. There were a few words I couldn’t decipher; but, overall, I think I did a pretty good job on it, especially considering that I’ve never studied French. Comments and corrections are welcome!

This record provides several important pieces of information:

  • The date and place of marriage
  • The parishes in which the bride and groom resided prior to marriage
  • The names of the parents of the bride and groom
  • The facts that the bride’s mother was deceased at the time of the marriage and all other parents were still alive
  • The facts that the bride and groom were of legal age at the time of marriage

This one document is quite a gold mine of information!

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The Birth and Baptism of Marie Edwidge Patenaude – 1867

My cousin Chris found the birth and baptismal record for Marie Edwidge Patenaude, who was born in 1867. Chris was able to find this record even though Marie Edwidge’s record was located in the records for Mission de Saint Thomas d’Aquin de Compton which are grouped with the records for Saint Herménégilde. The record extends from the back of folio 14 to the front of folio 15 and is far from easy to read.

Top of the Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Edwidge Patenaude - 1867
       Bottom of the Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Edwidge Patenaude - 1867

The Birth and Baptismal Record for Marie Edwidge Patenaude -1867

SOURCE: Ancestry.com. Québec Vital Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 [database on-line]. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Birth and Baptismal Record of Edwige Patenaude, Mission de Saint Thomas d’Aquin de Compton, Québec, Canada, 1867. Back of Folio 14 and Front of Folio 15, B.?2.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record for Marie Edwidge Patenaude -1867. Translated from the French, the record states:

B.[?2] [baptism #?2]
Patenaude
Marie Edwidge

On the twenty-seventh day of October, one thousand eight hundred sixty-seven, by us, the undersigned priest, missionary, Marie Edwidge was baptized, born on the seventeenth of the current month of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude and Osithe Gamache, of Barford. The Godfather was Calixte [Dupuy?] and the Godmother was Henriette Gamache, who, as well as the father, did not know how to sign.

[signed] Wol[fgang] Lussier, Priest

This record was very faint. If Chris didn’t have a good idea of what he was looking for and where to look, he probably wouldn’t have found this record. When these records are indexed, I don’t expect this one will be indexed correctly.

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The Birth and Baptism of Marie Patenaude – 1865/1866

Marie Patenaude was born on 31 Dec 1865 and was baptized on 01 Jan 1866 in St. Valentin, Canada East. Her birth and baptismal record was recorded as the first entry of the year 1866 – B.1.

the Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Patenaude - 1866

The Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Patenaude – 1865/1866

SOURCE: Ancestry.com. Québec Vital Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 [database on-line]. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Patenaude, St. Valentin, Canada East, 1866. Front of Folio 1, B.1.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Patenaude – 1865/1866. Translated from the French, the record states:

B.1. [baptism #1]
Marie
Patenaude

On the first day of January, one thousand eight hundred sixty-six, by us, the undersigned, vicar of this parish, Marie was baptized, born the previous evening of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude, laborer, and Osithe Gamache, of this parish. The Godfather was Guillaume Hénault and the Godmother was Célina Gamache, who, as well as the father, did not know how to sign.

[signed] S. Oct. Perrault, Priest

Since Marie was baptized on 01 Jan 1866 and the record states that she was born the previous evening, Marie was born on 31 Dec 1855.

In her later life, Marie used the name Lea, and it is under that name that other records may be found . 

As with other records from St. Valentin, there are two copies of this record. The one shown here is the civil copy which appears as entry B.1 on the front of folio 11 (image 1 of 54 in the records for 1866 in St. Valentin on Ancestry.com). The church copy appears as entry B.1 on the front of folio 269 (image 32 of 54 in the records for 1866 in St. Valentin on Ancestry.com).

Since this record was the first of the year 1866, the top of the register, above the Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Patenaude, provides a description of the records included in this set of folios.

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The Birth and Baptismal Record of Hormisdas Valentin Patenaude – 1864

An older brother of Marie Zénaí¯de Zite Patenaude was named Hormisdas Valentin Patenaude. He was born in 1864 and his birth and baptism were recorded as entry B.47 in the parish records of St. Valentin, the first entry on the page shown below.

The Birth and Baptismal Record of Hormisdas Patenaude -1864

The Birth and Baptismal Record of Hormisdas Valentin Patenaude – 1864

SOURCE: Ancestry.com. Québec Vital Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 [database on-line]. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Birth and Baptismal Record of Hormisdas Patenaude, St. Valentin, Canada East, 1864. Front of Folio 10, B.47.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record of Hormisdas Valentin Patenaude – 1864. The record, translated from the French, states:

B.47. [baptism #47]
Hormisdas Valentin
Patenaude.

On the fourteenth day of May, one thousand eight hundred sixty-four, by us, the undersigned, vicar of this parish, Hormisdas Valentin was baptized, born today of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude, farmer, and Osithe Gamache, of this parish. The Godfather was Salomon Patenaude and the Godmother was Marie Gamache, who, as well as the father, did not know how to sign.

[signed] S. Oct. Perrault, Priest

As with other records from St. Valentin, there are two copies of this record. The one shown here is the civil copy which appears as entry B.47 on the front of folio 10 (image 10 of 53 in the records for 1864 in St. Valentin on Ancestry.com) . The church copy appears as entry B.47 on the front of folio 230 (image 38 of 53 in the records for 1864 in St. Valentin on Ancestry.com).

In most cases, the civil and church copies of these records say the same things. Aside from minor difference in the way the record is formatted, the church copy of this record, shown below, has two significant differences from the civil copy.

Church Copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record of Hormisdas Valentin Patenaude - 1864

  1. The priest initially made an error on the church copy when he listed Charles Patenaude’s occupation as “cultivateur” (farmer). He crossed out this occupation and wrote I (laborer) in the margin. His initials and title, “SOP ptre”, are written next to the correction.
  2. At the end of the record in the church copy, there is an additional notation, which I can’t read very well. The words “mil et un” (thousand and one) appear in this sentence. Perhaps someone fluent in French can read it for me.
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The Birth and Baptism of Marie Fébronie Patenaude – 1863

I was told that Marie Zénaí¯de Zite Patenaude had four older siblings, the eldest of whom was named Marie Fébronie Patenaude. Fébronie’s birth and baptismal record was recorded as number B.37 in the 1863 folios from St. Valentin.

The Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Febronie Patenaude - 1863

The Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Fébronie Patenaude – 1863

SOURCE: Ancestry.com. Québec Vital Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 [database on-line]. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Febronie Patenaude, St. Valentin, Lower Canada, 1863. Front of Folio 204, B.37.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptismal Record of Marie Fébronie Patenaude – 1863. Translated from the French, the record states:

B.37 [baptism #37]
Marie Fébronie
Patenaude

On the twenty-seventh day of March, one thousand eight hundred sixty-three, by us, the undersigned priest, Marie Fébronie was baptized, born this day of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude, laborer, and Osithe Gamache, of this parish. The Godfather was Franí§ois Patenaude, and the Godmother was Marguerite Bluteau, who declared they, as well as the father, did not know how to sign.

[signed] GT Lesage, Priest

Since Marie Fébronie Patenaude’s birth and baptismal record was recorded in St. Valentin, the online Drouin collection on Ancestry.com includes two copies of the record – a civil copy and a church copy. The civil copy is found as image 11 of 62, record B.37 on the front of folio 11 for the year 1863 in St. Valentin. The church copy is found as image 45 of 62, record B.37 on the front of folio 204 for the year 1863 in St. Valentin. Note that both the civil copy and the church copy are available under the same link for St. Valentin – 1863 on Ancestry.com. Both copies have the same record number (B.37), although the folio numbers for the two records are different.

Frequently, one of the most difficult parts of these records to decipher is the name of the priest, who signed his name as he normally would, sometimes in an almost unreadable script. The signature on this record is far from the worst I’ve seen, but I still had a hard time with it. I found the surname Lesage on the French-Canadian surnames list on the website of the American-French Genealogical Society.

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Notes on the Drouin Collection Online at Ancestry.com

During the past few weeks, I’ve spent quite a bit of time with the Drouin Collection recently available online at Ancestry.com . 

ONE COPY OR TWO 

The records in the Drouin Collection online at Ancestry.com are sometimes provided as a single copy and sometimes as two copies. For example, the records from Coatacook include a single copy of the birth and baptismal records, but the records from St. Valentin include two copies, presumably a civil copy and a church copy.

Two different copies of a record provide a distinct advantage over a single copy: if one copy is difficult to read in whole or in part, the other record may help with the transcription. Further, one can check each copy against the other to determine if the two records differ from each other in any way and to decide if one record includes a transcription error.

Generally, those localities in the Drouin Collection with two copies include one set prefaced with a paragraph stating that the copy was prepared for the locality. In the civil copy, the records for each new year generally starts on a new page, since the parish prepared sets of these records for the civil authorities annually. The folio numbers for the civil copies usually start over each year.

The other set, which I assume is the church copy, does not include the preface, and the records for a new year usually continue on the same page as the records from the previous year. One might assume the church followed this practice to save paper and money. The folio numbers for the church copies are often continuous from year to year.

INDEXES 

While none of the Drouin Collection is electronically index at the present time, many of the record sets include digital images of the hand-written indexes. Unfortunately, some record sets do not include an index of any kind.

For some localities, the digital image of the index is provided through a separate link. For example, the records for St. Antoine sur Richelieu, St. Basile le Grand, St. Sulpice, and St. Valentin may be accessed through one link, and the digital images of the indexes are provided through a second link.

In the case of St. Valentin, the index link provides digital images of the hand-written indexes only for the church copies of the records. The civil copies of the records include digital images of the hand-written indexes at the end of each year.

I’ll be spending a lot more time with the Drouin Collection, since the records of several families I’m researching are included in the collection.

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The Birth, Baptism and, Death of Unnamed Child Patenaude

A male child, born to Charles Patenaude and Osithe Gamache in 1881, died five hours after birth. The birth, baptism, and death are recorded as one entry in the register: entry S.11.B.24.

Birth Baptism and Death Record of Anonyme Patenaude

The Birth, Baptism, and Death of Unnamed Child Patenaude – 1881

SOURCE: Ancestry.com. Québec Vital Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 [database on-line]. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Birth and Baptismal Record of Unnamed Child Patenaude, Roman Catholic Parish of St. Edmond, Coaticook, Québec, Canada, 1881. Front of Folio 8, B.24, S.11.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth, Baptism, and Death of Unnamed Child Patenaude – 1881. The record, translated from the French, states:

S.11.B.24. [burial #11] [baptism #38]
Unnamed Child
Patenaude

On the tenth of March, one thousand eight hundred eighty-one, we, the undersigned parish vicar, have buried in the Roman Catholic cemetery, the body of an infant baptized provisionally at home and who died five hours after birth, born the previous evening of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude and Osithe Gamache of this parish. Witnesses at the burial were Charles Patenaude and Jean Marcoux who are not able to write.

[signed] Chas. Ed. Milette, Priest and Vicar

This unnamed child is apparently a male child. In this record, the word , rather than née is used to express the English word born . Since the masculine form of the verb is used, the child must have been a male child.

The child had been baptized provisionally at home, since the parents apparently did not have time to bring the child to the church to be baptized before the child died.

In centuries past, the Roman Catholic Church speculated that infants who died before being baptized entered a state of limbo instead of heaven . Roman Catholic parents considered infant baptism of utmost importance to ensure that their children would be able to enter heaven should they die as infants.

Recently, the International Theological Commission of the Roman Catholic Church stated that limbo represents an “unduly restricted view of salvation“, thus reversing centuries of theological thought.

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The Birth and Baptism of Joseph Franí§ois Adélard Patenaude – 1879

Joseph Franí§ois Adélard Patenaude was born in 1879 in Coatacook, Québec, the son of Charles Patenaude and Ozithe Gamache. His birth and baptism are recorded in record B38 on the back of Folio 9.

Birth and Baptismal Record for Joseph Francois Adelard Patenaude

The Birth and Baptism of Joseph Franí§ois Adélard Patenaude – 1879

SOURCE: Ancestry.com. Québec Vital Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 [database on-line]. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Québec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Birth and Baptismal Record of Joseph Franí§ois Adélard Patenaude, Roman Catholic Parish of St. Edmond, Coaticook, Québec, Canada, 1879. Back of Folio 9, B.38.

Click on the link for a PDF copy of the Birth and Baptism of Joseph Franí§ois Adélard Patenaude – 1879. Translated from the French, the record states:

B38 [baptism #38]
Joseph Franí§ois
Adélard
Patenaude

On the seventh of June, one thousand eight hundred seventy nine, by us, the undersigned parish vicar, was baptized Joseph Franí§ois Adélard, born on the third of the current month, of the legitimate marriage of Charles Patenaude, laborer of this place, and Osithe Gamache. Godfather, Louis Laroche, Godmother, Mary Dupont, who did not sign.

[signed] N. Rainville, Priest

French Canadian birth and baptismal records from this time period all use the same format and, for the most part, the same words. Learn to translate one and you’re in good shape to translate all the others. That said, different priests tended to use slightly different words, and the specifics of the events sometimes results in slightly different language.

Unlike the birth and baptismal records from Poland I recently published where the same people reappeared as Godparents in a given family’s records, these French Canadian records show different Godparents for every child in the family. I don’t know if this observation was made by chance or if there is a pattern here.

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